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1. Anthony Russo says:

   February 5, 2012 at 7:00 am

   I seriously have never understood why people need to have the right to bear arms in modern society. The NRA boggles my mind that they even exist.
2. Kerry Amburgy-Dickson says:

   February 5, 2012 at 7:15 am

   Because the cops aren't there to protect you, they are there to clean up the mess after a crime is committed. Very rarely to cops ever get there in time to prevent someone from getting hurt by an intruder. If someone breaks into my home, I have to assume that whoever it is means to do me or my family bodily harm. To assume otherwise is letting yourself be slaughtered like a sheep. When in many cities respond time for police is 20 minutes or greater and if you are in the country, you could be looking at response times of 45 minutes or more, you just can't rely on the police to protect you.

   I'm very aware that police departments simply don't have the budget or the manpower to lessen these times. When cops actually walked a beat, they actually did prevent crimes. Now very few areas have cops that walk the beat. They just run from disaster to disaster mopping up the mess.

   And modern society isn't quite as secure as many would like to believe. Our society exists on the razor's edge. It wouldn't take all that much to send it over the edge.

   If you don't wish to own a weapon, that is your choice. But just as you have the right to choose not to defend yourself, I should have an equal right to have the means to defend myself.
3. Anthony Russo says:

   February 5, 2012 at 7:33 am

   That's the usual answer I hear. It's all about defending yourself from the criminals breaking into your home at night. Do you know how rare it is for a criminal to break into a home and have the person have their gun and defend their home with it? It isn't worth the other side of the coin. The accidents that happen with guns and innocent people get shot because they don't know how to properly use them. The more likely theft of guns that wind up in the criminals hands anyway.

   The worst part of it all is the constant barrage of gun advocates that are constantly playing the victim card, like they can't survive without their guns and the govt and people are trying to take them away. The NRA is always touting how it isn't about guns, but about America. No, it isn't about anything but guns. Guns are about nothing but killing. Why defend that so much?
4. Kerry Amburgy-Dickson says:

   February 5, 2012 at 7:51 am

   It doesn't have to be night for someone to break into your home. I once locked myself out of the house and ended up breaking the door in. I made a hell of a racket. The cops were never called and I live only about 20 feet from my nearest neighbor. We have a gun in the bedroom and a loaded clip sitting beside it. And no, there are no children in the house, so that isn't an issue.

   I was taught gun safety at a very early age. I have no objection to the government mandating safety training for gun owners.

   Why defend it? Because it is our frigging Constitutional right! The government has been slowly but sure taking away our rights (Patriot Act, NDAA, et alias), I'll be damned if I will let them take away another right.

   What happens if the government becomes the oppressor? Who defends you from them, if all the guns have been taken away? You going to defend yourself against a gun with a baseball bat? And if you are going to say, "That'll never happen here.", well, I'm betting the people of other countries who fell under the sway of an oppressive regime said the same thing.
5. Anthony Russo says:

   February 5, 2012 at 8:02 am

   If someone breaks into your house during the day, that means you probably aren't home and now the criminal has the gun. I know the break-in scenario where the home is defended by the gun owner can happen, but it is not likely to be honest. Not enough to justify the negatives.

   You were taught gun safety. I wish the majority of gun owners purchasing at Walmart could say the same thing. Whenever the government tries to add some kind of extra requirement to get a gun, that's when the NRA freaks out and protests it yelling about the 2nd amendment.

   I believe the Constitution is a living document. What made sense over 200 years ago, is not needed today. Yes it is in there, but it is not needed in today's society.

   If you are going to have to overthrow the government, it isn't going to happen with a bunch of people with guns fighting the US Military. Unless people start stockpiling tanks and military grade weaponry, that's not a very good reason to have a pistol or rifle or shotgun.
6. Kerry Amburgy-Dickson says:

   February 5, 2012 at 8:16 am

   Actually that isn't necessarily true. Not everyone in the world works during the day.

   I have no problem with government-mandated training or with a wait period before your buy the gun. After all, a wait period will prevent the so-called "crimes of passion". If you have to wait 2 weeks to get the gun and you still shoot someone with it, it's premeditated. FYI, I don't buy the "crime of passion" or temporary insanity defense.

   I agree that the Constitution is a living document, BUT changes to it must be done via an amendment that ALL the people have the opportunity to vote on, not just with a bill that only a handful of individuals who are out of touch with the reality of the nation get to vote on. I disagree that the right to bear arms is no longer necessary.

   If the government becomes the oppressor, the cast majority of the forces a person would face would not have tanks. There simply aren't enough of them to go around. And if the absolute worse cause scenario ever happened and the government completely collapsed for whatever reason, I would rather have some way of defending myself than have to hide in the basement and hope whoever it was I heard would pass my house by. And with a gun at least there would be some chance of getting enough to eat via hunting of game.
7. Anthony Russo says:

   February 5, 2012 at 5:41 pm

   Gun advocates reasons generally have merit, but they treat them like it is the majority, when it is usually the minority.

   Examples:

   Not everyone works during the day. (Most do)
   I have no problem with waiting 2 weeks (The NRA does)
   I would rather have a way of defending myself (Most do not have the ability, even with a gun)
   Getting enough to eat hunting game (See above)

   You are a very fitting person to be in possession of a firearm with your views and mindset. I challenge you to tell me that you think the general population is fitting as well. I would think not. I'm not saying there should not be guns. I'm saying there should be a ton more restrictions to getting one. A lot more. Make it hard enough that only those who truly are in the right mindset and trained are able to have one. The NRA would never allow it.

   And about the government falling apart. If they are coming at us with the weapons and manpower they have in the military of the USA. We aren't going to fight back with pistols, rifles and shotguns. If the military is coming to your house, you aren't going to just 'take them out'.

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